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27 February 2012 @ 06:47 pm
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Wings of the Dove

The movie, not the book. I watched Room With a View and then I wanted moar period movie goodness and moar Helena Bonham Carter, so it seemed like a good idea.

This was better than I expected it would be, but I wish it could have ended differently. Like, I realize that it's not a Henry James novel if a monied American isn't getting screwed over by tricksy Europeans, but there was a moment when Kate, Merton, and Millie are running around Venice together and everything was so sumptuous and lovely, and I optimistically hoped it would turn into a sexy threesome movie where everyone loved everyone and they would all be together until Millie died and it would be sad but also happy, yay.

Yeah, that didn't happen.

Instead it turns into one of those trainwreck love stories where you see every bad thing coming. Millie is so sweet (But it's always like that! When you're as rich as Millie is you can afford to be sweet, and it's the social climber who has to get her hands dirty and end up looking twice as bad!), and you know the whole time that however much Kate and Merton love each other, it's not going to survive doing this to Millie. The end of the movie is totally appropriate -- they end up with no money, no trust, a bunch of self-hatred, and a ruined relationship. They pulled out a tacked on hopeful ending for Merton where he returns to Venice that I kind of wish they hadn't. Maybe Hollywood thought the ending would be too depressing otherwise?





Downton Abbey

Meh.

  • The low point, for me, was Lavinia's death. Which was just so ridiculous. I wish they hadn't brought her back at all, especially not so she could die the ridiculous, proppy death of a martyr, wishing for Matthew and Mary to be happy with her actualfax last dying breath. And afterwards, the stuff about how Matthew and Mary were cursed... it was all so silly! I think Matthew walking again was a copout, but a very much desired one on my part. That was the good kind of silly. Also silly: Mary and Daisy's women's intuition kicking in when Matthew and William were injured. Honestly, I wish they'd just left out all the stuff from the front and stuck with the helpless perspectives of everyone at Downton -- maybe with some flashbacks here and there.

  • I completely lost interest in Bates' story line, and in Anna/Bates. I'm not at all looking forward to the continuation of this story line next season.

  • Did people actually like Branson/Sybil? It was cute watching him fall in love with her last season in a this-won't-end-well kind of way, but Branson was completely insufferable this season. I hated how he denigrated her work (what work? serving tea to randy soldiers?). I hated the lack of understanding he showed her, like what he was asking her to do wasn't a huge deal, like if she didn't do it, it meant she was an awful person with false ideals. I also never really felt like Sybil returned his feelings, so it all fell so completely, annoyingly flat for me. The one thing I'd say is that I liked that Branson is a radical socialist, to the extent that he's sort of a crank. I think the way he adjusted his rhetoric to excuse the murder of the czar's family in Russia showed that he's completely committed in an emotional (rather than rational) way to these principles, so it makes sense that he would be so harsh on Sybil every time she wavered. But honestly, I wish Sybil had turned him down so we'd get to see her at Downton in a new romance in the 20s.

  • Edith was very much improved this season. It's sort of sad how attracted she was to the slightest hint of interest from anyone, to anyone or anything that offered her purpose: the married (!) farmer, the con-artist (I mean, I think he was a con-artist...), that guy in the Christmas special who is much too old for her. I want nice things to happen for Edith next season.

  • I think I actually liked Daisy's story line the most of anyone's. It was sad to watch her get railroaded into being William's sweetheart, into getting engaged, and then into marrying him. And when William asked her to marry him so he'd know she'd have his widow's pension to fall back on... gah, I cried so much during that episode. I also loved how Daisy avoided and avoided and avoided William's father, and their scenes in the Christmas special where they finally sat down together were total perfection. And she got promoted at the end thanks to his advice!

  • Thomas! I loved him this season. I liked O'Brien more too. They're so stupid and short-sighted, bless them. I love how O'Brien is always tattling to Lady Cora, and it never turns out the way she thinks.

  • Last season I felt like the audience's sympathy was (mostly, or at least equally) meant to be with Matthew and his mother, but this season I felt like Isabelle got the shaft and was depicted as being annoying and overbearing, and our sympathies were meant to be with Cora. Which struck me as odd.

    Anyway, I was disappointed with the season overall, but the production values are so pretty and the acting is so good, and I'm looking forward to the twenties.





    Awake

    I watched this pilot early, and it's the only pilot besides Revenge that's caught my attention this season. It's run by the guy who did Lone Star, which makes sense because you could also distill Awake's story down to being about a man living a double life. I love Jason Isaacs, but the reset of the casting is just okay. The scenes with his wife were the flattest part of the premiere, which is a problem because the show's premise is that Jason Isaacs's character is caught between two realities -- one where his wife is still alive, one where his son is -- and his relationship with his son connected sooo much better than his relationship with his wife. Unless that's a reflection of the idea that it's harder to lose a child than it is to lose a spouse, his wife and their relationship needs to be fleshed out ASAP.

    The super obvious answer to this show's mystery is that Jason Isaacs is not actually awake, that he's asleep in a coma after the accident. I kind of hope the showrunner will go ahead and debunk this early on, like the people who ran Lost debunked the theory that they were all in Purgatory.





    The Good Wife

    The Syria stuff was really timely, but it was sort of a waste of Jonathan Groff.

    I thought the conclusion to Will's arc was kind of dumb. Or more like the reaction to the conclusion of Will's arc was dumb. SIX MONTHS AWAY FROM THE LAW WILL KILL YOU. I think they should have made his suspension three years (and then downgraded it later in some sort of convenient and plotty way) because six months doesn't seem like a big deal. It's basically a sabbatical. Will is a partner in a law firm with no children and no wife -- he ought to have plenty of money. He could travel, write a book, take some cooking classes, visit friends in Washington and Baltimore -- the implications aren't a huge deal to me, and it's weird to see people jockeying for his position since it's not like he'll be gone for that long. Their third partner in the first season NEVER came in to work.

    Diane, as usual, is fucking flawless. I loved how Will realized that the only reason he got leniency was because of Diane's pro-bono program he fought against (although honestly, I don't remember him fighting it! I thought Diane just said this is what I want, and Will was like okay?) and that it was the catalyst for his decision to not fight the suspension and accept the consequences of his actions.





    Gossip Girl



    ^ This is pretty much how I feel about Gossip Girl right now. (Except for Penn's hair, which crossed a line in this episode. It's officially tragic.)

    Yeah, anyway. I have no idea what's going on. It's great that Dan and Blair are finally happening, but it's way too hot off the OTT Chuck (and Louis) stuff for me, and I have serious whiplash. I fully believe that Blair has been avoiding Inside, avoiding her feelings for Dan... but just a few episodes ago I was watching her declare her unfuckingdying love to Chuck for the umpfuckingteenth time. I'm also kind of stupefied that Serena, Blair's denial, and Inside were all dealt with in this one episode. Chuck/Blair continues to be all over the place. I was really confused about when they'd promised to wait for each other, but I guess what I thought was the show reassuring viewers that Blair wouldn't be basically raped while she was forcibly married to Louis was actually Blair promising Chuck he wouldn't see her with anyone else, so. That's great.

    I hate that the video plot has become Dair fandom's version of Baby Bass because all of you guys's specs that Dan didn't really send the video have made it that much harder to accept that he did, so THANKS A LOT, GUYS. But I still think he sent it. Best case scenario is that Dan has a non-gross motive, and that Chuck's actions tonight will parallel Louis's from 5x06, when he tried to convince Blair that Chuck was the wrong choice. Speaking of Chuck, I kind of liked him in 5x16. He just feels like a more S1/S2 version of Chuck who tries too hard to hold onto things that end up slipping through his fingers anyway. You don't need Blair, Chuck. It will be okay.

    My favorite thing about the episode was how completely exasperated Dan was with Blair's BFF act at the UCB rehearsals. His face when Blair tried to hold his hand, or when she said that kissing him is like petting a dog? Priceless. It's funny that Dan wrote the book version of Serena advising Blair's character that there's nothing powerful about her when she's around ~Charlie Trout~ and encouraging her to pick Dan when in reality we see Serena push Blair towards Chuck all the time, even after he humiliated her and grabbed her at that embassy party last season. So IDK how seriously to take what was in the book. I'm just going to take Blair's epiphany that Dan loves her for her at face value and leave the rest. (Although, I did think Dan made up the essay contest to replace the photoshoot until the writers made it Twitter canon...) I did love Blair's reaction when she had to deliver the line about how I DON'T KNOW WHO I AM WITHOUT CHARLIE, like it was the most ridiculous thing in the world, even though Blair says things that are infinitely more ridiculous about Chuck all the time.

    Oh look, a parallel.



    The schemes were hiring a fake student to fake like Dan and get Serena to overthrow Blair, ruining Blair's attempt to be a TA at Columbia, and then obvs sabotaging Dan's book proposal. I guess it's his version of Chuck Bass Was Here.

    I've always meant to do the parallels between 2x04 and 4x05, what with the minions, martinis, scarves, and dossiers. Maybe someday.





    Revenge



    Talk about a letdown. I'm glad Daniel isn't dead, though. It would have been a bold move, but also a dick one. And in the long run, the show would probably be worse instead of better. (I'm biased tho, since he is my fave.)





    Vampires Who Don't Have Diaries

    It's hard to remember an episode where Stefan and Damon's fixation on Elena has annoyed me more. It's one thing to put Elena's safety above Bonnie and her mom's, but they could maybe, like, pretend to care a little about what it will do to Bonnie instead of just how mad Elena will be. I hope the Bonnie/Elena issues end up making this episode worth it because the setup in it was clumsy and annoying.

    Klaus burning his deep, sensitive sketches of Caroline was soooo silly. He's not at all scary anymore. Is the rest of this season really going to be about killing him? At this point, why bother. Let me into the TV, I could take him! And what happened to Esther? Why is Damon/Elena backburnered? Honestly, I feel like everything on the show is stagnant and I have no idea what's happening next.

    Originally posted at http://caitie.dreamwidth.org/470857.html.
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    amy grindhouse: [gg] queen svery_vogue on February 28th, 2012 01:50 am (UTC)
    I hate, hate, hated Sybil/Branson. Like...so much. The writing for them was terrible and it made me embarrassed to be watching the show, tbh!

    I also agree with your Anna/Bates sentiments and the awesomeness of Daisy this season. She was my fave (after Matthew and Mary...stans gonna stan.)
    The evil tickler: Phantom - Christinestaceyface on February 28th, 2012 03:19 am (UTC)
    Sooo, what were your thoughts on tonight's ep of GG? Idk how to feel man.
    Caitiecaitie on February 28th, 2012 03:38 am (UTC)
    I haven't watched it yet. I'm not in any hurry, but it seems like people are incredibly confused about it? Which isn't surprising because I feel like nobody ever knows what to think after a Coburn episode. Was Chuck playing Raina? Is Louis the father? DId he already know Blair cheated? Etc.

    I did hear they had Dan say he's been scheming and trying to isolate Blair from her friends this whole time, which... well, the video is gross to me. But then my LJ friends seem to think he was just... saying that because he felt guilty and bad about the video? I don't know. Coburn tends to hit the themes of the season really heavily in his episodes, so I wouldn't brush it off either.
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    (Anonymous) on February 28th, 2012 04:51 am (UTC)
    Coburn always confuses me. I´m wondering why they still let him write episodes (or Elkhoff).
    The episode was scheming after scheming after scheming, changing the scheme on every level every five minutes.
    Totally OTT, for my taste to much.

    After putting an afterthought on the video thing I hoped in the end for Dan sending the video.
    I thought how lame would it be if Dan let Blair marry Louis without even confronting her a last time in the wedding episode, without trying to stop her from doing the biggest mistake of her life (as everyone could see it).
    And as it turned out he did it because he had been there for her the entire time and couldn´t bare seeing Blair marrying a guy she didn´t love and by so becoming unhappy. So at least he had a good reason. But its a Coburn episode, so that wasn´t even a big deal, Blair forgave him right away.
    Stopped myself from writing more to not spoiler you anymore.
    I think this has been one of the better Coburn episodes, but a bit too rushed, it lacked 15 more minutes and dialogues in between to make it great.
    At least after this Dair shall have a real shot on their own, so Caitie, please forget the bad writing (cause let´s face it, that will always be a problem with GG) and come back joining us on the Dair bubble.

    Greetz Dwragon
    myfriendamymyfriendamy on February 28th, 2012 08:23 am (UTC)
    The super obvious answer to this show's mystery is that Jason Isaacs is not actually awake, that he's asleep in a coma after the accident

    I think, based on reviews of the following eps, that this will be debunked in show?

    And yay for Daniel living on Revenge!
    Caitiecaitie on February 28th, 2012 04:18 pm (UTC)
    That's good! I haven't read any interviews, but I really wanted it taken off the table as an option. Sort of like how I was really happy to stop hearing PATRICK JANE IS RED JOHN theories on The Mentalist after Patrick was confronted by RJ while tied to a chair in the second season finale.

    Daniel was too pretty to die, lbr.
    12cubed12_12_12 on February 28th, 2012 12:50 pm (UTC)
    Downton Abbey

    1) ITA on Lavinia, Bates (I never liked him in S1 either, though), and Sybil/Branson. Though I enjoy Sybil/Branson not as a ship, but as a SL for Sybil, b/c it rings very true to me that someone like Sybil, frustrated with her life and wanting to rebel but not knowing how to channel her energies and efforts in the most productive or constructive direction, would end up rebelling through Branson, through a really traditional route (i.e. marriage), which may ultimately end up trapping her in the life she wanted to avoid. (I've disliked Branson ever since he said, "You don't know it yet, but you're in love with me." Just...hate that.)

    2) Daisy + William's dad = ♥ ♥ ♥

    3) Edith: one thing I really appreciate about the writing for Edith and Mary is that it's one of the few instances of the "always second best" trope where I can understand why one girl is always left out/overlooked/passed by for the other. Sad for Edith, but it rings very true for me. Whereas in most examples of this trope I always find myself wondering why the "inferior" girl is considered to be such when she's (IMO) more dynamic, interesting, individual, driven, attractive, etc. and the other girl is much more bland and just plain annoying and I just keep being told how awesome she is without being shown it. xD

    I've never liked Edith much, but I think her "softening" in S2 has diminished her as a character. It's like they smoothed off her rough edges, but they didn't give her a consistent growth arc to show us how this happened: and I get the uneasy feeling that they just did it to make her more likeable.

    4) Thomas is my FAAAAAAVORITE (well, after Mary, heh.) I think the actor was brilliantly cast, I've loved him ever since he weaseled his way out of conscription in S1, and my love grew even deeper after he got himself shot in the hand so he could go back home. LOVE.

    Vampire Diaries

    Stefan and Damon: "Hey, let's FLIP A COIN to decide which of us is going to turn this woman whom we've been ordering around and who's been risking her own life to help us, because if we SNAP HER NECK it might hurt our chances with this chick we both wanna bone."

    It's the reason it took me so long to get into this show. This mindset has become more blatant, but it's been there since Day 1 underlying the entire premise/appeal of TVD, IMO. Ugh. I don't know what horrifies me more: the actual scenes in the ep themselves, but the complete failure of both fandom and the media to understand what was so sick and wrong about this whole setup. It's not necessarily that the Salvatores prioritized Elena over Bonnie and Abby: it's their ATTITUDE about doing it. UGH TIMES A BILLION.

    Gossip Girl

    1) all of you guys's specs that Dan didn't really send the video have made it that much harder to accept that he did, so THANKS A LOT, GUYS.

    Sorry. I was just so sure he'd be covering for Eleanor or something, though I started having my doubts when I remembered 5x01 (since I never thought 5x10 paralleled 5x01 to begin with--I was waiting for it to be paralleled later.)

    Best case scenario is that Dan has a non-gross motive

    IDK, for me the issue is how he behaved during the cover-up, not the sending of the video itself.

    So IDK how seriously to take what was in the book.

    I found it jarring, TBH. I felt like the scriptwriter had forgotten that the book was supposed to be something Dan had written at the end of S4, and instead just started using it as a shortcut to let the show speak directly to the audience. "You never used to care what other people thought of you"? Blair has ALWAYS cared intensely about public opinion. "Dylan is always there for you, no matter how you treat him"? I think that was referring to the S5 arc, TBH. And I wasn't too fond of the essay-competition retcon b/c I do think it's a retcon and an unnecessary one.
    Caitiecaitie on February 28th, 2012 04:16 pm (UTC)
    I've never liked Edith much, but I think her "softening" in S2 has diminished her as a character. It's like they smoothed off her rough edges, but they didn't give her a consistent growth arc to show us how this happened: and I get the uneasy feeling that they just did it to make her more likeable.

    I think they definitely were... and I'm okay with that. I didn't hate Edith in S1, but I have a pretty high tolerance for mean girl characters, way more than most people. Everyone else I knew hated her. I was watching all of this on PBS, so I watched a BTS piece where the actress talked about how she warned her family that her character was awful (and when the actress thinks that...) and said her mother was like, what are you talking about, she's just misunderstood... but then they got to the end of the season and her mother was like, okay you were right, she's a total bitch. I think maybe they took it too far with Edith intentionally ruining her sister and wanted to use the war to sort of show her vulnerability and try and fix it so she wasn't the least popular character anymore.

    And yeah, Thomas was pretty great this season. I liked him last season too, but he was another one that was more likeable (or maybe more guilt-free to like?) this season.

    I was really just kidding about the video spec! I thought 5x01 = 5x10, so I didn't expect it to be paralleled again.

    IDK, for me the issue is how he behaved during the cover-up, not the sending of the video itself.

    It absolutely was for me as well! But I knew this episode wouldn't address it, being that this is Gossip Girl *and* a Jake Coburn episode, so Dan having a decent motive was my best case scenario for it.

    Re: Inside, the writers are using it like a plot device to convey whatever it is they wanted to convey. For Serena, she was portrayed as everything she fears being seen as, Nate was disappeared, Chuck died alone, Dan was horrible and deserved to end up alone, etc. And in this episode Dylan and Sabrina seemed just heightened versions of themselves (did you watch the deleted UCB scene where Dylan is like I. AM. THE MOST. UNDER.STANDING. PERSON. IN THE WORLD?) and Dylan was a good friend treated badly by Clair. I agree that Blair cares far too much about what people think of her, which is one reason I wasn't sure how seriously to take the followup. And the essay competition was a totally unnecessary retcon. I didn't even think it was serious -- like, I thought it was like the photoshoot in the book version -- until I saw the stuff from Twitter. Anyway, Gossip Girl is so bad and so annoying and so all over the place rn that I'm totally picking my battles, if I keep watching at all.
    bellesbellsbellesbells on February 28th, 2012 07:55 pm (UTC)
    did you watch the deleted UCB scene where Dylan is like I. AM. THE MOST. UNDER.STANDING. PERSON. IN THE WORLD?

    That was amazing.

    sorry for the interruption, carry on.

    p.s. I still need to catch up on TVD, 12 cubed.
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    12cubed12_12_12 on February 28th, 2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
    I didn't hate Edith in S1, but I have a pretty high tolerance for mean girl characters, way more than most people. Everyone else I knew hated her.

    1) I love mean girl characters, too, usually. But the kinds of mean girls I fall for generally tend to have some kind of charm or positive attribute that draws me to them, where "positive" can mean a wide variety of things: whether it's simply humor, or intelligence, or the actress playing it right...but Edith didn't have that effect on me.

    2) But, that said, I was totally fine with that b/c I am OK with characters who aren't meant to be particularly likeable to begin with. I think writers should dare to write more characters where there's absolutely no agenda to make them liked by the audience, TBH. That's what I liked about Edith: I loved her as a piece of writing, I thought she was *painfully* well drawn in S1, even if I disliked her as a person...and I feel like that got lost a little. IDK.

    I was really just kidding about the video spec!

    LOL, good. xD

    did you watch the deleted UCB scene where Dylan is like I. AM. THE MOST. UNDER.STANDING. PERSON. IN THE WORLD?

    Heh, no, I haven't seen this (I just can't be bothered to keep up with everything anymore, I didn't even dl the entire ep this time, just caught the DB parts on YT.) But it sounds hilarious.

    Anyway, Gossip Girl is so bad and so annoying and so all over the place rn that I'm totally picking my battles, if I keep watching at all.

    "picking your battles" is a good way to put it--I think if it weren't for fandom I wouldn't even be keeping up with the show anymore, TBH.
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    Actually [Beara]sstarlz on February 28th, 2012 05:01 pm (UTC)
    Tbqh, I actually really liked this week's episode in a perverse sort of way. Like I'm loving all this Charlie/Lola stuff and Nate and Lola are adorable and...yeah. Dan and Blair yay! They are so cute together at the end of the episode. Anyway.
    Caitiecaitie on February 28th, 2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
    Yeah, I heard the VDW stuff was pretty funny.
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    Caitiecaitie on February 28th, 2012 10:41 pm (UTC)
    Well, that actually makes sense, that she sees him as her way out of a lifestyle she doesn't really want. I guess I just didn't feel like it was especially romantic -- or at least not as romantic as they were trying to make it.

    I just am so over stories where the female loses her mind over the man and loses her drive,

    Ugh, Gossip Girl.
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    donut_wazlibdonut_wazlib on February 28th, 2012 08:09 pm (UTC)
    I really think we were meant to take the "You know that's not how it happened" that Dan said to Chuck at face value. Because it adds up with everything else he was saying, and with his behaviour. Why would he want Chuck to believe otherwise? Blair wasn't even there at that point. It came across as him reasoning with Chuck, and then finally giving up. And specially the delivery of the line "Yes. He is absolutely right". It is not the kind of thing one says when one is confessing to a devious scheme. It's more like "fine. I give up. You are right". And I do think Dan feels responsible for the video, and he didn't want the reason Blair is with him to be because he messed up. That's why he called himself a "horrible person" at the end.

    And Blair knows that Dan wasn't trying to keep them apart, that she was the one seeking him out at every point. And one more thing, Chuck was telling Blair that Dan leaked the pic to GG when Blair turned up, and that he was trying to separate them all along, and Dan turned around and said "Yep, that's right", essentially confirming that he was the one who had sent the pic, when we were SHOWN that Dan hadn't sent the pic, and that Chuck had framed him. I don't think Blair knows that Dan didn't send the pic , even now.

    You really should watch the whole episode Caitie. I don't think Dan framed Chuck, per se,he let someone who was already suspected take the fall, because he is human, and was scared. (Not that that is excusable, I am still mad at him about it) And he didn't know Blair was blaming Serena, but when Blair said "You let me blame my best friend", he was like "Yes, I am so sorry". So I think it was just his guilt over the video that was leading him to take responsibility for everything.

    Long post, but do let me know what you think :)

    ETA: I sound really accusatory :P but I am probably being very biased, and since you didn't watch the whole episode, I wanted to fill in some details you might have missed. Basically, Dan sent the video , and that was horrible, but I don't think he admitted to isolating Blair.Feel free to tell me I am being delusional. :)

    Edited at 2012-02-28 08:34 pm (UTC)
    Caitiecaitie on February 28th, 2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
    You're not delusional. This plot is so stupid and poorly written, it's hard to know wtf is going on. Like I said upthread, I haven't watched the episode, and when I watched the scene it wasn't clear to me one way or the other, and as of right now I'm just taking what he said at face value. Not so much that Dan was trying to isolate Blair from her friends, I guess, but that he was trying to keep Chuck/Blair apart since with the video plot you have three major issues: (1) Dan sending the video, (2) Dan blaming Chuck for sending the video, (3) Dan lying over and over again to cover it up, which is a new piece of his characterization. And while Dan had an explanation for sending the video, the only one we got for blaming Chuck was that he was trying to keep Chuck and Blair apart.

    The thing about Gossip Girl is that it is a really shitty show in every way that actually matters so, like with the video plot, I don't trust narrative cues like past characterization or Dan being really terrible at lying to Serena in 5x14 more than what's on the screen at any given time. It's not like I agree with Chuck's exaggerations about how Dan is a villain~, but I don't really see a reason to not take what Dan said at face value. Why else would he lie about Chuck? Like, I need a reason, and I haven't been given one except that Dan was trying to keep them apart, which Dan acknowledged was the reason he framed Chuck. It was after the fact, but he pretty much did frame Chuck. He unsolicitedly blamed Chuck twice, once to Nate and once to Blair, even going to the extent to say that he thought Chuck had really changed. That was REALLY what needed explaining about what Dan did, and if the video plot is wrapped up... then all the explanation I have is the one Chuck proffered and Dan apologized for.

    The other thing is that the setup for this plot was all in these stupid cues -- Chuck saying he'd make Dan pay if he found out he was lying to him about why Blair was avoiding him, Nate's stuff about how Dan was dishonest in 11, Nate saying Chuck is the most honest person he knows, etc. And when Dan admitted that, Chuck had just told him to be honest for once, so. IDK.

    On the bright side, Dan apologized sincerely and he didn't blame everyone else and their mother like Chuck does, and he seemed to be really genuinely sorry in the last scene. I just hate that this subplot happened at all, it was horrible.
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    ms_mmelissams_mmelissa on February 29th, 2012 02:31 am (UTC)
    I don't think Blair knows that Dan didn't send the pic , even now.

    Blair knows he didn't send it. She immediately goes to confront Dan after seeing the pic on the website and he tells her he didn't send it and the Georgina is gossip girl. Right after she confirms that she is Gossip Girl Chuck sneaks up and asks Dan how it feels to be framed right in front of Blair.

    She was shaking her head at Chuck the whole time he was blaming Dan. I don't think she really believed anything he said.

    It's so ridiculous I don't even know why it was a plot point since Georgie and Chuck tell Blair within 5 minutes that Dan had nothing to do with it. Worse schemers ever.

    Edited at 2012-02-29 02:37 am (UTC)
    bεiηg a pεrsoη is gεttiηg too complicatεd。: Serena + Blair | helllesoleilluna on February 28th, 2012 09:26 pm (UTC)
    Downton Abbey

    I'm still not totally done with S2, but I'm already a little disappointed.
    I completely agree about Lavinia, her dying of the spanish flue and everything surrounding her/that was just so OTT ridiculous.
    I could not get invested in that storyline, because no one should be that nice/forgiving. And Matthew blaming Mary just made me like him less, Mary was nothing but a good friend to him AND to Lavinia, so she really didn't deserve to be cursed/unhappy. I know that he was grieving, and probably didn't mean what he said, but it just stopped me from feeling too sorry for him.
    I wish they had focused more on his post-war trauma and injury, that would've been enough to deal with.

    And I completely stopped caring about Mr. Bates halfway through the season, I don't even know why, but everything surrounding him/his wife bores me to no end, even though Anna is one of my favorites and I want her to get her happy ending.

    Sybil is probably one of the characters I'm most invested him, and I still like her and Branson, but mostly because he inspired her to be passionate about what she wants, not because their love is so special.
    His comments about her work were really disrespectful, but I don't feel like I have to worry about her losing her way because of them. I think she has a pretty realistic view of their relationship and about what she wants from him.

    At least I no longer hate Thomas, they did a great job giving him more layers, and even though he is still primary an opportunist, I can now sympathize with him.
    I definitely noticed the change in how Cora and Isabelle were portrayed. Last season I felt like they used Isabelle to confront Cora and Violet with their privileges and to provide a more realistic viewpoint, but this season it felt more like we were supposed to see her as this ridiculous overbearing person.


    Gossip Girl

    IDEK. I think I would enjoy DB so freaking much right now, if the video plot hadn't happened or had at leads been properly addressed. But it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, and I'm not able to enjoy DB as much as I'd like to. Dan/Serena not having a conversation about the recent events doesn't help either.


    Revenge

    I can't seem to decide if I like that they spared Daniel, or not. I really like his character, because he seems to be the only one with morals and a conscience. (Even though I side eyed his running away plan so hard. You just don't leave your little sister alone after she finds out her real father is a presumed terrorist. Not cool.) But it also kind of felt like a letdown. IDK.

    Edited at 2012-02-28 09:27 pm (UTC)
    The evil tickler: Phantom - Christinestaceyface on February 28th, 2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
    IDEK. I think I would enjoy DB so freaking much right now, if the video plot hadn't happened or had at leads been properly addressed. But it just leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, and I'm not able to enjoy DB as much as I'd like to. Dan/Serena not having a conversation about the recent events doesn't help either.

    THIS. I mean I'm still happy and flailing but not as much as I would have if the video plot never happened.
    Caitiecaitie on March 1st, 2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
    Gossip Girl is a mess, Dan and Blair included.

    And yeah, IA that sparing Daniel seemed like a copout, but killing him probably would have been a mistake. I just wish the twist had been better than Tyler dying.

    but everything surrounding him/his wife bores me to no end, even though Anna is one of my favorites and I want her to get her happy ending.

    I feel the same! I like Anna so much, but IDR like Mr. Bates anymore and his drama is eating all her screentime.

    I definitely noticed the change in how Cora and Isabelle were portrayed. Last season I felt like they used Isabelle to confront Cora and Violet with their privileges and to provide a more realistic viewpoint, but this season it felt more like we were supposed to see her as this ridiculous overbearing person.

    Yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to say! This season it was like the show shifted its allegiance more towards Cora and Violet in general -- like all the ridiculous bureaucratic stuff and the idea that it's just really stupid government red tape replaced the idea that the nobility have ridiculous amounts of power to do whatever they like, and it was like their power was almost necessary to get things done the way they SHOULD be, like William coming home to Downton to die or the idea of a rehab center for soldiers.
    ms_mmelissams_mmelissa on February 29th, 2012 02:35 am (UTC)
    Except for Penn's hair, which crossed a line in this episode. It's officially tragic.

    It's even worse in 5x17. Makes me even more mad that they didn't deep-six the royal plot line; if they had just followed a natural progression we could have had all this dair goodness AND Penn's hair looking awesome.
    Caitiecaitie on March 1st, 2012 08:12 pm (UTC)
    Yeah, plus the totally lackluster fallout of the royal wedding (not to mention the really unimpressive trappings of the wedding itself) has made me even more annoyed that they did it. Why send Louis away just as he was fun and evil? This royal minder thing is not very intimidating. The dowry is stupid and Blair just put it all in Georgina's hands instead of getting herself out of it. Blaaah.
    donut_wazlibdonut_wazlib on February 29th, 2012 06:18 am (UTC)
    The writers clarified that Dan wasn't isolating Blair. Chuck just felt that way.

    "Gossip Girl Writers ‏ @GGWriters Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
    @hopscotchy We don't believe Dan was doing that. Chuck just felt that way.
    "
    (Anonymous) on February 29th, 2012 08:33 pm (UTC)
    Jip. It´s the only rational explanation for a char like Dan. (Although poorly handled in acting by Penn, I think he got a really shitty script, so that the viewers are concieved)

    He sent it to resue Blair from an unhappy marriage. That´s just on the same level as her mother and Serena and Chuck trying to stop the wedding.

    He didn´t tell her directly, because he was afraid of losing her. It was cowardly, but not mischievous. A few months ago he only wrote a story about Blair (she only read the part of them having sex), and it was enough for her to blame him for ruining her relationship and avoid him for 4 episodes, this time must have been the hell for him. We could see him kind of depressive. Like the writers said on twitter, he did not want to blame others and scheme, he wanted to save the possibility of seeing Blair. He´s head over heels in love with her. It was enough for him just to have her around, but it was to hard for him not having her in his life. He´s seen her forgiving Serena and Chuck things far worth and he wasn´t confident enough in her feelings for him to do the same.

    He never thought that she would call him for rescue. He never dreamed of having the possibility to be her choice when running away. And in the car it became clear for him that the video itself wasn´t Blair´s problem or Blair´s reason for calling him and not Chuck, it was because he was right and Louis was the wrong guy for Blair.

    Than Blair opened more and more of her feelings towards him and he was trapped in his lie. Telling her at the wrong moment would only have resulted in more distance between them, in Blair going back in denial mode. It would have ruined his only shot at getting the girl he wanted. He wasn´t aware of Blair´s full feelings towards him, or else he would have taken a shot much earlier, and against gossip girls overtone I think he had a chance in 4x18,4x19,5x1 & 5x4, if he had the guts to open his feelings to Blair (Not right away, but without her avoiding him right away, but after a while of consideration and putting down the denial mode). [But that´s some of the sweetness between them, they both are to afraid to be hurt to put their feelings on the table]
    Blair´s changing attitude towards him and her new kindness towards him (after realizing that Dan meant more to her and that he gets hurt by her treating him bad all the time (it was kind of their thing and mostly nice witty-banter), let him take a risk (her choosing him let him fight her, her care for him let him kiss her), because he saw the possibility of maybe getting everything.

    I´m just happy that Blair is so forgiving. And in the end it´s really obvious what we knew all along: she was in denial since season 4. Only showing this in very few, significant scenes of Leighton was the writers shitty way of keeping Chair stans in line. And it was a bold move by the writers, but we already knew that they ruin logical character driven plots for deceiving shock moments.

    They create this big moments, but their outcome always seems to be a great letdown without consequences, costing them viewer every time. 4x11 The Townie: Great episode until the end: Juliett came away, Vanessa just moved away, Jenny was nowhere to be seen.
    4x18 Lily got "house arrest" for getting Ben 3 years jailtime. And Ben changed from wanting Juliett to revenge Serena at all costs to love her in one second. Not to mention Reina´s father changing his story and behaviour every 3 seconds, at least he got consequences. But story over, so byebye Reina. I swear 4x09 was the point I said to myself: After the outcome for Juliet I´m done with this show. Than they gave me Dair interaction, the thing I waited for since 1x02 and really hardcore since 3x18. The right move would have been getting Chuck and Blair apart at the first episodes of season 4, perhaps giving Ed a break or his own redemption arc alone. They needed 2 seasons to finally let Blair fall for another guy who treats her in the right way. The problem with Gossip Girl is that they have a really great cast and a few good storylines that keep me invested in another wise shameful show. But right now I´m just loving it, concentrating only on Dair butterflies and predicting the next ludicrous story the writers are gonna give us to believe.

    Dwragon
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    Muchas Smooches: dan_kirsty on March 2nd, 2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
    Aw, A Room With A View is completely wonderful, isn't it? Even the minor characters are dead-on.

    re. Downton:
    Oh, I shipped Sybil/Branson coming into this season, but they lost me as the season went on, and I was rooting against them by the end, ugh. Yeah, now that M/M are together, there could be a lovely new romantic arc for Sybil next season if not for this fail ship.

    I think the way he adjusted his rhetoric to excuse the murder of the czar's family in Russia showed that he's completely committed in an emotional (rather than rational) way to these principles

    I hadn't made that distinction but you're so right.

    re. Gossip Girl:
    The pacing is terrible. What is this season?!

    A few weeks ago, I was pretty dismayed about Dan's part in the video plot. But it's been dragged out so much that I mostly forgot about it during 5x16 and I really enjoyed that episode. It came out okay in this latest episode, but I'm worried about what it means for Dan and Dair in the long run. Maybe it won't have any long-term repercussions because the writers were thinking only of their surprising twist and not of Dan's characterisation. I hope so? But I read it as a significant, slightly depressing alteration to the character so I won't be surprised if he lies to Blair about something else at the end of the season. I don't understand the purpose of all the dialogue about honesty and dishonesty otherwise.

    Anyway, I'm enjoying the lovely DB scenes while I still can and I'm sorry you're not feeling it.